July 2, 2025
Why real DJs don't wear shorts and other unpopular opinions
Send us a text Every DJ knows the struggle of balancing personal comfort with professional standards, especially during those sweltering summer gigs. This candid conversation between Brian B and Joe Bunn tackles this head-on with Joe's controversial hot take: "grown men should only wear shorts at the beach, at the gym, or if they're a child." Whether you agree or vehemently oppose this position, their passionate debate perfectly captures the hosts' authentic approach to all aspects of DJ life...
Every DJ knows the struggle of balancing personal comfort with professional standards, especially during those sweltering summer gigs. This candid conversation between Brian B and Joe Bunn tackles this head-on with Joe's controversial hot take: "grown men should only wear shorts at the beach, at the gym, or if they're a child." Whether you agree or vehemently oppose this position, their passionate debate perfectly captures the hosts' authentic approach to all aspects of DJ life.
The episode weaves through summer plans as Joe shares his impressive concert lineup spanning Avril Lavigne to Mumford & Sons, while Brian tests his Joe's festival knowledge with a playful "real or fake" game. These lighthearted moments balance perfectly with substantive business discussions, particularly when addressing a listener's question about service diversification. Their nuanced take on "niching down" versus expanding offerings provides practical guidance for DJs at every career stage.
Fitness-conscious DJs will appreciate Joe's detailed review of the Whoop wearable fitness tracker, which monitors sleep quality, recovery metrics, and physical strain without the constant distractions of a smartwatch screen. For professionals working late nights and irregular schedules, these insights into physical recovery and stress management are invaluable for sustained career longevity.
The most exciting announcement comes midway through as the hosts reveal details about their upcoming DJ Collective Recharge event in Raleigh this November. With tickets priced substantially lower than previous events and attendance capped at just 100 participants, this intimate professional development opportunity promises meaningful connections and fresh content even for repeat attendees.
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00:22 - Welcome to Season Four
01:16 - Real vs Fake Festival Game
03:07 - Joe's Summer Concert Plans
06:48 - The Case Against Men's Shorts
08:58 - DJ Collective Recharge 2023
12:42 - Whoop Wearable Tech Review
17:59 - Finding Your DJ Service Niche
22:30 - Closing and Weekly Schedule
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welcome back everybody.
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It's the beyond the djoth podcast with your co-host, brian B, and Mr Joseph Eagles.
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Bun Jr, damn, I did the whole name Government issued.
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We are in episode two of season four Season four Brought to you by DJ Event Planner, the CRM of choice For us.
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We've been on it for quite some time, Highly recommend it, Use it Decades and especially as this is getting launched in the summer, this specific episode probably be relying on a lot of the automation features of the CRM right, Probably while you're at the beach or doing other things.
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You got to follow up with your people.
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Yes, absolutely.
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And also our friend CP my boy over at S-Start supports the podcast as well.
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Check them out at sstartcom.
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Several different apps that you can use for your clients to make parties even better.
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So I have a gig that is potential, hasn't booked officially yet Interesting Two full weekends in a row, three days Go on, called Summerfest.
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It's weekends in a row, three days Go on, called Summerfest.
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It's happening in Milwaukee, wisconsin.
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Wow For a corporate, potentially playing for Lexus in their booth.
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But they got some great acts, and so today I kind of thought we would hit.
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First of all, let's talk about you're not a festival guy, are you?
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You like festivals?
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No, I hate festivals.
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You're just a concert guy.
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I'm a concert guy.
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Well, hold the concert stuff, because I want to get a sense of what concert you're going to, but I thought for our opener.
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Today, I would share with you what festivals are either real or fake, so I'm going to give you a name.
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You're gonna let me know if these are real just the name of the festival, just the name of the festival.
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So I've got a few of them here.
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We're going to start with the first one here.
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That's right up your alley.
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This is the Gator Tickler Jamboree.
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Do you believe this is a real festival or a fake?
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Real, it is fake.
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Shit, the Gator Tickler0 for 1.
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All right, I'm going to keep track.
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This time, damn it.
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Next one the Firefly Music Festival that's real, coming up in June.
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Where do you think it's taking place?
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Any idea?
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Is it in North Carolina?
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Dover, delaware, apparently?
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So that's that.
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I don't know about that.
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How about this one, the Pitchfork?
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That's real Music Festival.
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I think that's real.
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That's real.
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Where do you think it's taking place?
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Nashville.
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It is real, it is.
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Chicago.
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Union Park the pickle rick rave nah it is fake.
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That was a character on um rick and morty.
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Yeah, pickle rick and uh one last one here the mullet mania fest I know you're trying to get me.
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I must say, no, it is fake.
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Okay, you did pretty well on these.
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These are very well one stumped me.
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One of them stumped me damn.
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So of them stumped me Damn.
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So you're going to a lot of concerts.
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Talk to us a little bit about the concerts you're headed to.
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I have to, because that is your summer, right.
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Yeah, I mean, that's what I like to do.
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Here's the good news about Raleigh Raleigh is not a major market playing on Saturday, Right, so I'm able to go to a lot of concerts during the weekday.
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I'm sorry I'm pulling up my Ticketmaster app if you're watching this on video, but right around now Avril Lavigne the greatest hits tour.
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I never would have expected you to say that I love her Like I have a real like passion.
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Really, I actually love her Wow.
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Yeah With Simple Plan, wow with.
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Simple Plan.
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Did you get like VIP?
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Are you going to go backstage?
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I don't think I went that far, normally I do sign my what butt cheek, have you seen Avril Lavigne lately?
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I haven't no she's gorgeous somebody somebody said they saw in Florida.
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Actually, who was it um?
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Another one of those 90s ish, who was um ironic.
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Who's that girl?
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oh, alanis morrison said she's gorgeous really yeah, how did um natasha beddingfield look at that thing you went to.
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She looked good, she just was not.
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Yeah, the kindest of people, right, a nasty person.
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So yeah, then the week after that, it's not summer until this happens.
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In my opinion, 311 oh.
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Nobody loves 311 more than joe bond.
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Redhead amphitheater I don't know man, chris, romero is a big oh he, you're right, romero loves 311.
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He goes to like 311 day.
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So they're all.
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These are in raleigh so far, yeah yeah, okay, then you know that.
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Band the head and the heart, yes, but the opener is who I want to see, so I'm, I don't really care about the head and the heart.
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Wild rivers you would love this band, wild rivers.
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You would love this band, okay, two dudes and a girl like harmonies, like very acoustic, very acoustic, like pop, but like small venue red hat again.
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Then the triumphant return in July Mumford Sons, Ooh Marcus.
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That would be a good one, they go crazy dude, yeah they absolutely Also Red Hat.
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No, sir, principal credit $25,000.
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Okay, ooh, so that's going to be decent.
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Then back to Red Hat in August.
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It's a step down from Matchbox 20, but it's still Rob Thomas and he still does Matchbox 20 songs, so it's him solo.
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Yes, sir, he's got a new record coming out.
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Oh I know why?
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I don't know.
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They never are, though.
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They never are.
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When they get to that level, they're not working with the best producers, it's just always.
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You're like Rob Thomas got money though.
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Maybe Rob Thomas is rich.
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You think so Net worth Rob Thomas.
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Please look that up, saquon, I'm going to go.
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Hold on, let me, let me go.
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I'm going 20 mil.
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Hell, no, rob Thomas.
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You think a hundo.
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Yes, he wrote all those songs.
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He wrote smooth for Santana.
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How big was that song?
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I'm going to go under a hundo 17.
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That's what I thought, bro.
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I'm like he's'm questioning the source.
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Then 100 mil.
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Then I'm going on tour In the fall Down to Columbia, south Carolina, to see Need to Breathe Acoustic the last tour With the bass player that's been in the band Since they started 20 years ago no new album, no new record, but it's called Elegantly Acoustic or something, and they will kill that Interesting stick or something.
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And they will kill that Interesting you know I love those guys.
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I just like all these places.
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They sound hot muggy.
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Oh, you're right.
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Everything's outdoors other than that.
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I don't know.
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You just go.
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It's summertime, though you chafing.
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Not really because.
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I wear jeans.
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I wear jeans.
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It's even worse.
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I'm going to make a statement right now and in fact, I'm going to make a reel about Not really because I wear jeans, I wear jeans.
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It's even worse.
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No, it's not here, let me.
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I'm going to make a statement right now and, in fact, I'm going to make a reel about this.
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There are three moments that a grown ass man should wear shorts.
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No, I'm agreeing with you.
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I don't wear shorts either, man.
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Are you ready?
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Oh, I want to hear this the beach or pool, beach slash pool, the gym, or, if you're a child, that's it, or bedtime.
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Really Bedtime.
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Bedtime is boxer.
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Yeah, okay, sure, so what's the age, what's the cutoff?
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18?
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Wow really what the fuck does a grown-ass man need to be walking around in shorts for?
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In other words, let's say it was night it's in the south Bro, but what do you?
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mean like do you think that if I take these, this, this, this part of my pants off, let's say, this is 24 inches from the knee down?
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Oh my god, I'm that much cooler and then I gotta see your ashy ass knees.
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You're not breathing you're not breathing, bro.
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I'm not wearing skin tight shorts.
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I don't know who does.
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Now, that is different skin tight shorts would be like I'm not saying skin time, just saying regular.
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A grown-ass man does not need to be walking around short because it's coming from a non-athlete here.
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I'm telling you, I'm not an athlete honestly yeah but I'm still allowing that.
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I said the gym, yeah, but like what about the dudes that walk around with those like shorts, that are like way above the knee, like?
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that's even worse.
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I agree, but they're like gym bros.
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You know what I mean.
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I know what you're talking about.
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The five-inch inseam with your balls hanging out the side.
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I hate those guys, bro, nobody wants to see your legs, bro.
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I just don't want to be pulled off.
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Nobody wants to see a grown man's legs or your fucking feet.
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It's the same dudes that are walking around in flip-flops right now.
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Yeah, I'm not a flip-flop guy.
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I don't care if I'm at the beach, I ain't wearing flip-flops.
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I can't do it.
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I can't do it, bro.
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Oh man, I'm sorry.
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So do you just suffer?
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Yeah, ugh.
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No, I can't do it.
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I'm not matter, man, even if you're skinny, you're jacked, whatever.
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I don't need to see a grown man's legs ever.
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Okay, noted Moving on.
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Well, we got the recharge coming up.
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Yes, we do here in November.
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You want to spill any deets?
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You have any new information?
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you want Listen.
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I'm just going to say this.
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The DJ Collective has been a passion project of mine and yours, yeah, and Jason Chan and I's since 2017.
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So here we are, eight years in.
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We have realized that over the years, people have gotten more out of the smaller, intimate events that we call the Recharge.
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We are doing it here in my hometown because I can pull every favor to make this the best experience possible and not have to spend a fortune, which therefore allowed favor to make this the best experience possible, and not have to spend a fortune which therefore allowed us to basically half the price of the ticket.
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You speak $2,500.
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Now I think it's around $1,200 to $1,500, depending on when you're seeing this.
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It started at $9.95.
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If you guys had gotten in early, which a lot of people did, we're capping it at 100 people.
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So close.
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Yeah, You'll be able to have genuine conversations with everybody there.
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Yeah, Me, you and Jason are all doing a presentation.
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We're also sitting on stools answering your questions that you can send in, you know ahead of time.
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We're going to have a couple of guest speakers.
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Tbd we're going to have a couple of nightlife events.
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One party in this old 150-year-old house that's going to be fun it's going to be sick.
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The venue itself is gorgeous.
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North Carolina at that time of the year is unbelievably gorgeous.
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Probably going to even have a DJ ride at the Spin Studio that I have an investment in one morning, or even one evening.
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It's just going to be fun, man.
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We've got a great group of people coming.
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I think we're already at 60 people, so by the time this comes out might be more, more.
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Yeah, so if you're interested, it's the dj collective officialcom.
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Is there anything you want to add or did I summarize?
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I think you, you did it I.
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I would just say that we always try to make, even if it is a copy and paste of the name each one is standalone so like you came in february or you came last year.
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It's not going to be repeated topics it, it's all new information.
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And I will say this too if you've been to a DJ collective, you guys know this.
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Like those things people always say, I didn't think I was going to take any more notes.
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I've been to every one of these, I, you know.
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I think I've learned it all, and there's always new stuff that's presented and people who've been seven, eight, nine times in a row have said man, I keep getting more and more stuff.
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It's crazy how much.
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I walk away with.
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So I think it's.
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It's a worthy investment.
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I think it is, and I think that the relationships and the conversations you have, you know, between sessions or at night when we're out having a drink, are just as poignant and relevant as the stuff that we're going to say up in front of the crowd.
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And I also say this too if you're flying in there's more than enough direct flights these days into Raleigh.
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I feel like the airport's becoming better and better.
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Every time I go out of it.
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It's just like another airline.
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Another airline's offering direct flights.
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There's a new one called Breeze.
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Well, it's not that new, it's been out for a little while, but I just flew there direct from Pensacola, of all places.
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Yeah $54, you know, so it's crazy what you can get, and there's another couple of new ones that are coming online too, that are servicing these smaller markets.
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And I think you know there's enough hotel rooms and Airbnbs around there that you probably don't even need a car.
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You can Uber or catch a ride with one of us.
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You know, brian and I live here now, obviously, so it's just going to be a really fun two, three days.
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We would love to have you here in my hometown his hometown now of Raleigh, north Carolina.
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So the DJ collective official dot com.
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Well, is your last gear segment of this batch?
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Oh yeah.
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I got a wearable tech today.
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Wearable tech the.
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Whoop the who.
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Yeah, I got a wearable tech today, wearable tech.
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The Whoop, the Whoop.
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I have heard of it.
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W-H-O-O-P dot com.
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