How to Reduce Wedding Prep Time

Welcome And What’s New

SPEAKER_01 0:17

What's up, everybody? Boothheads. Thanks for tuning in. We got your two co-hosts here. Joe Bun to the right of me. I'm Brian B on the mic. Thanks for joining us. I thought you were gonna shout out somebody to the left or something. Well, in front of me, laughing over here. Say quiz. We got the say quizzing. Uh running the tech. And speaking of tech, we got some uh business news to announce.

SPEAKER_00 0:40

Business shakeups, yeah. Business shakeups in the bun of hemisphere ecosystem. Ecosystem, that's a great word. Right. Uh two things. Yeah. One, we have moved now the all the 3D parts that were under the bun gear moniker or brand to uh parts, the number four DJs.com. Parts for DJs.com. Just basic, simple, you know, brand delineation, if you will, to you know, the the the bun gear site is for the command center, the flagship DJ booth, the$3,000 piece of furniture and the cart and the new quad pods for the tube lights, like things like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:23

So if they if they go to bun DJ Gear, is there a bunch of bun gear?

SPEAKER_00 1:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

Is there a redirect?

SPEAKER_00 1:31

There will be a banner at the top. Yes, there should be a banner at the top to send you if you need the plastics, the 3D stuff, to parts for DJs.com.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

Any new SKUs in that business, by the way? We haven't talked about that.

3D Parts Move To Parts4DJs

SPEAKER_00 1:42

Um by the time this comes out, probably one or two things. We're working on, and maybe we'll have it out by then. The problem with this business, and I I see where the previous owner got behind, is if you look at it from a standpoint of speakers and tube lights, there's too many variables, variations. So, in other words, we make a clip now, one of the most popular items is a clip that goes on the neck of the EV of all 50, which let's call that one of the most popular speakers that mobile DJs use. Right. And then it has a little kind of half moon on the other side of the clip, which holds in your tube lighting basically beside the neck of the speaker. Right. One of the most popular things we make. The ad runs every day on Facebook and Meta and Google all day, every day, right? I get five comments a day. Do you make that for the QSC KC12?

SPEAKER_02 2:39

No.

SPEAKER_00 2:39

We don't, not yet. Do you make that for the LD Maui 44?

unknown 2:43

No.

Why Universal DJ Gear Matters

SPEAKER_00 2:43

A Maui 28? No. Anything with that neck on it. Bose, L1, no. Then even worse. So let's just say we did make it for all those. Now, the only one we rank currently is of all 50 this side, both lighting 362 on that side. Well, do you make that for the Estera AX one? Do you make it for the glow tubes? Do you make it for the neon picks, all different diameters? No, we don't. So I'm working on this universal piece. Right, that's the key. That goes in there. Yep. A universal clamp will sell 10,000 units before before summer. Right. Like it and it, but it's got to be done right. And it is, as everything I do, it's it's hard. Because you have to make it, you have to test it, you have to see if it's gonna work. You have to send it to some people. Does it work? You have to send it to people with different speakers than you have. Does it work? So that's what we're working on. So all the the plastics now or the 3D printed parts are at power4djs.com. And when does this come out, Brian?

SPEAKER_01 3:43

May uh May, first week of May.

SPEAKER_00 3:47

Definitely. So we're recording this end of March. This should come out first week of May. By now, folks, you should be seeing May 6th. The day after single de Mayo. Oh, single de mayo.

SPEAKER_01 4:00

We won't revisit that. That was a one and dunner. That was a one-and-dunner.

SPEAKER_00 4:08

Let's not bring that up. Um by now, you should be seeing ads, and it should be live to purchase from Rollplease. Event sync. Event sync. My new planning tool for DJs. Love it. Geteventsync.com. Could not get event sync. Geteventsync.com is the URL. It's going to take you to the page where you can buy this. You can try it. What's eventsync.com? Any idea? I think I went there, it was dead, and I didn't reach out to take it. I did do a copyright search and it was an unrelated product if it's even still existed. Somebody owns it. Don't know that it's worth going down the rabbit hole trying to get the URL and the name and blah, blah, blah. I actually did all the search for it. Unrelated product. Okay. Get event sync. Geteventsync.com. This is my planning tool. This is going to save you hours planning for events. Hours. Okay. The gist is the gist. You got two options. You go in, you create an event, and all it's going to ask is for a name and a date and if what wedding what event type it is. So let's say you choose wedding. At that point, you have two options crossroads. One, you can scan Zoom transcripts, notes you've taken, or that nine-page PDF that a wedding planner gave you. It's going to scan it and extract all the data that you as the DJ want and need. Through like an AI prompt? Through AI tag.

Event Sync Launch And Link

SPEAKER_01 5:40

Okay. Doesn't matter. Irrelevant. But I mean it's like a prompt where you have to tell it. Absolutely not. Oh, so it's too.

SPEAKER_00 5:46

You have to tell it nothing.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

You're just uploading documents.

SPEAKER_00 5:48

Uploading a document. Or documents, plural.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

And is that via like a link? Like a URL link? Uh it'll just, you know, look in your phone. Because I'm if I'm on my phone, I'm I don't have the Zoom recording on my phone. So I'm assuming this is an app, or maybe I'm wrong. No, it's it's it's web-based. It's web-based. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:06

Okay. The launch will be web-based. Okay. What you see now is web-based. Okay. So you're on your computer, your laptop, whatever you plan your photos on. I mean, normally that's what we do. Yeah. And you pull these documents, scans them, and then basically it calls out what you're missing. Right? Oh, okay. Well, I see that the first dance is um whatever, at last, but uh, do you play the full song? That wasn't on the document.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

Right.

How Event Sync Scans Documents

SPEAKER_00 6:32

So next, all you do is click invite client, sends them an email. They have no login, no download an app, no bullshit. They click join event, it takes them immediately to a conversation. And it looks like this. And we'll start going through and it'll say, um, confirm. Or hey, we're gonna start, you know. And all it's keep in mind now, it is only asking them the questions that were not scanned in that document. Or it is asking them to confirm that it is still true. The first, hey, we see your first answer at last. Yep, boom, it just goes on in the next second. Question, are we playing the full song or fade it? Or fade it? At what minute, Mark? One minute 40 seconds. Perfect. Next question. And it's saying like all this on the side the entire time it's running, AI. And it's saying, hey, here's some chance. Hey, you don't know what your first dance is, or you don't have any options? Here's some choices that we think are great. Yeah. Same thing, parent dances, same thing, cake cutting, same thing for whatever. All these AI prompts. Oh, you don't know what the um ceremony procession or prelude is? That's the music that you know is playing when the guests are arriving. Got it. I mean, literally down to it. At the very end, they finish it. Congratulations, confetti rains down. You're finished with your planner. I look at it from my end, I can see all the all the notices have cleared out. Uh-huh. So that at the beginning, there was like a little warning. Hey, there are 10 things that still need answering here. Those are now cleared out. I click the button at the top, it says run of show. Boom. Clean one and a half page document with the exact time, note, whatever that goes with that thing, the exact thing you are going to see me walking around carrying on my iPad, that's what I'm going to be looking at all night. And right now, that takes me an hour to an hour and a half to prep a wedding, minimum.

SPEAKER_02 8:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:26

What can I take it down to?

SPEAKER_01 8:29

Ten? Okay. Have you had any issues yet? I mean, I'm sure it's still in testing phase, but like where it doesn't get it right. Yeah. Of course.

SPEAKER_00 8:38

I mean, that's it.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

But it still takes a human to kind of relook at it.

SPEAKER_00 8:40

You listen, there is no planning tool in the world that is going to eliminate that final planning call. If you do that, you're dumb.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:48

I'm going to say that right here.

SPEAKER_01 8:50

Right.

SPEAKER_00 8:50

The disclaimer, I'll probably put a disclaimer on the side. You still need to talk to these people before their wedding. Right. There's no world in which I'm not having that final planning meeting.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

No world. Do you have to teach the AI tech what things to ask for? Or is it just doing it on an automation of itself?

SPEAKER_00 9:09

We have run hundreds of documents through this thing to try and get it to understand that toast is the same thing as speeches. And that's yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:20

Well, like as an example, father-daughter dance. Yeah. I didn't have the meeting yet, but I know that the dad is no longer with us. Right. The last thing I want to do is ask for a father.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

How does it uh I mean you're you've told it that I I have the the master template of questions that I ask my couples is preloaded into that. Got it. All you have to do is go in and go, I wouldn't ask that question. I don't care what the colors are. Um yeah. We're not gonna play an exit song if they're outside. I'm not gonna run an everse out there and play the final countdown as they're running through the spark. Like things that you want to change or you wouldn't ask, or you would change the phrasing, change it. Yeah.

unknown 9:58

Cool.

SPEAKER_00 9:58

And if you change it in the middle of the wedding season, it'll even say, Do you want to go back and change this people that are already doing this? Yeah. Or do you just want this question change for the people going forward? So then and then if you let's say you have the final planning meeting, right? And you've already scanned the wedding planner's planner. Right. And you take a bunch of notes in your app. You can literally take that, copy and paste it, or drop another PDF of all your notes in, and it'll add those to that planner. So it'll go, do you want to replace what's in here or append it? I love it. Oh, I just want to append it.

unknown 10:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

So now you got even more data. Yeah. Or a Zoom call transcript or whatever. Got it. You was you were about to ask a question about it.

SPEAKER_01 10:40

Uh cap on events, is it uh capped by employees?

SPEAKER_00 10:44

No, it's gonna be one price flat fee, like a monthly membership or like monthly membership. Okay. And it's gonna be like$2530 a month. Okay. Something like that. Yeah. Now, I don't uh I want people to get in now, so that's why I'm making it affordable for everybody. Yeah. You're not gonna need five different apps, you're not gonna need, you know, a bunch of tabs open. This is not gonna take you hours to do. This is going to save you time and money. Is there any integration with any of the CRMs that are out there? Will be integration with CRMs, and there'll probably be definitely be integration with Cray hackers in the future. Got it. So this is a big, you know, version 1.1 or whatever. Like this is just it keeps on getting better and better as the as the months tick by. You know, like we just are constantly going to be working on it as we have been for the last six months. So this is kind of the I don't want to call it the beta version because I've sent it, you know, and had tests from 25 DJs over the last month by the time this comes out. Right. And by the time it comes out, you know, the UX and the UI are cleaned up. Yeah and it's working.

SPEAKER_01 11:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:47

Cool.

SPEAKER_01 11:48

It only gets better from here. Congrats, man. I know that was how much how much uh work was this? I mean, from start to finish as far as when you started the concept to literally six or seven months of working on this pretty much every day and phone calls every other day with the development team.

SPEAKER_00 12:07

Yeah. And starting poorly with somebody American in Florida and losing a quick 5,000. You know, like it's very difficult.

SPEAKER_01 12:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:17

Got it.

unknown 12:18

Excuse me.

SPEAKER_01 12:19

It's very difficult. Well, that's cool. Yeah. Something new for the. So are you going to any of the shows with this? Are you um gonna have a booth that you know where can people get a demo? Obviously, the website, but could they you plan on rolling this out into anything?

SPEAKER_00 12:32

Probably not this year. Okay. Probably next. Probably next. I mean, I I think that the demo at the DJ Z. That I love that idea.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

Book it. All right, sounds good. Well, congrats, man. I know that those things are not easy. No, it's difficult. So let's hit the uh pop culture minute, which also seems to be our main topic. So that's it. All right. So uh are you on Substack? Have you heard of it? I I've heard of it. I'm not on it. Okay. Saekwan, are you? Substack guy. You're a Reddit guy?

SPEAKER_03 13:04

I'm a Reddit guy.

SPEAKER_01 13:05

Okay. Okay, so Substack is basically like a like the Patreon for writers. Let's call it. Okay. So there is a subscription model where like writers don't have to go through a third party, let's say that they were a writer for the New York Times and run it through them. Like they're getting direct access to the writer's work. And readers are getting access. Readers. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, readers are getting access to the writer's work. So what's good about that as a writer is that you know, A, you're not giving a piece to somebody else that's gonna probably market up crazy and you're not getting fairly compensated. Secondly, you're able to keep your audience to yourself. So it's kind of like this micro community or whatever. I started getting into it because uh just some of the people I follow, they were putting a lot of their what used to be blog material now on Substack. And the a couple of the people I follow, you don't have to necessarily even uh subscribe. Yeah, some of it's donation based.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

Yeah.

Substack And The “Death Of Spotify”

SPEAKER_01 13:58

Like, hey, I'm just trying to get it started, build up my community, then I'll start charging. So if you want to donate for the time or whatever, feel free, but it's not like it has to be that way. So now uh it asks you what your interests are, besides the people you actually want to follow. So I get every day I get like a little, you know, hey, have you seen this article? So one of them is music. And I saw this article.

SPEAKER_00 14:19

Is this something you think you would ever do, by the way?

Microcommunities And Owning Your Audience

SPEAKER_01 14:21

I don't know. Um I feel like you would be yeah, I'm pretty good. I'm a better writer than I am, a speaker for sure. So I I could see it being a good medium for that. Like you can't think of the opposite. You can't put vote videos up, like it's just all writing. That's what I'm doing. Yeah, you would rather do that. I'd rather do that, right? And I'd rather do the opposite. Right. So I saw this article, um, and I have a picture of it here on the next slide. I think it's uh it was the death of Spotify. That's of course got me kind of thinking because we've talked about this a couple episodes back, about why streaming is minutes away from being obsolete. So I actually took a screen grab of a little bit of the article that I thought I would read you because it's worth I could summarize it, but I think it's better if I just read it to you. So let me just read it really quickly. Um The sentence that broke my brain is the first part of it. He goes, I was, um by the way, this is by uh Joel Govia or whatever his name is. Okay. Uh I was walking down Queen Street in Toronto last week, completely zoned out, listening to this episode of David Senra's Founders podcast, which I need to start listening to. That was the other thing I got out of this. If you don't listen to founders, you should. Senna uh Senra uh obsessively analyzes the careers of history's greatest entrepreneurs. I think you would probably like this, even though you're not a podcast guy. This particular episode was a two-hour deep dive into the life and mind of one of my biggest heroes, Jimmy Lovine. Ivine. Ivine, sorry. Ivine is arguably the most important living bridge between music and tech. He co-founded, I didn't know this about him. Beats by Dre. Uh, Interscope Records. He co-founded that. Yeah, built Beats by Dre, and then sold it to Apple for$3 billion to help launch Apple Music. He knows where the bodies are buried because he dug half the graves. That's great. About an hour into the podcast, Jimmy starts discussing the current state of the music business. I literally stopped walking. I had to pull out my phone and rewind it three times just to make sure I heard him correctly. Um, speaking about Spotify and Apple Music, he says the streaming services to me are minutes away, minutes away from being obsolete. Minutes away from obsolete? I repeated to myself. What do you mean DSPs are going to become obsolete? We've spent the last 10 years optimizing the entire global music industry around a single undisputed higher power, the digital service provider. I spent basically my entire career in music being told to beg for editorial playlists. I was told to obsess over pre-saves and learning the algorithm. We built our entire ecosystem on the assumption that streaming platforms were the final ultimate evolution of my music consumption. For the first time in history, anyone with a smartphone could basically listen to any song and to ever exist in an instant. But the more I stood there, freezing on the sidewalk, listening to him speak, the more I realized he is absolutely right. The end result is like, well, so where where is it people going? And that's where I kind of want to get to here. Um, so if streaming isn't the end game, what is? And by the way, this whole article is great to read. I would definitely read it. There's a lot more to it than I'm saying. So what if Jimmy is right? If the DSPs are minutes away from obsolete, what replaces them? Well, I'm not sure the DSPs are going to disappear overnight, but if you're an artist or a manager trying to sustain yourself in this evolving music economy, the answer is direct ownership. The artists who will survive the next five years are the ones who are quietly shifting their focus away from the ATM machine and they are building their own cultural hangers. They're capturing phone numbers on Lalo. I'm familiar with that. I don't know if you are. They are driving fans to private Discord servers. They're focused on ARPF, the average revenue per fan, through high margin merch, vinyl, and hard tickets, rather than begging for fractions of a penny from a playlist placement. We are witnessing the death of mass audience and the birth of microcommunity. The music industry has spent a decade um obsessing over how to get a million people to listen to a song once. The next decade, I think this is the best sentence, and this is how he ends it. The next decade will be defined by artists fighting over how to get or no, sorry. The next decade will be defined by artists figuring out how to get a thousand people to care forever. Which I thought was a crazy conversation with Joe. Yeah. We just had I told you. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess I was going with this, uh, kind of thinking through it in the terms of like where does this go? How does it play for DJs, right? Not talking about music, but I also think this the crossover here is obviously the music streaming stuff, whatever. But microcommunities for DJs. I've been kind of preaching this for a while that like I think we're missing that link between you and your past clients because once the gig ends, it's over. You might send them a happy anniversary for a couple of years for the next three or whatever. But that's basically it. And I think when people are working about, we've talked at nauseum about people asking for how do I get the tire kickers and stuff like that. Imagine all of this is all now being curated, your leads from your referral sources of people you've already done a great job for. And the problem is that we're not nurturing it that we're doing the, you know, pay for an ad on this or pay an ad for that, run a meta ad or whatever the case may be, boost a post instead of trying to go with the people who already care. You don't need that many. And then if you nurture that, what could that mean for bookings? And, you know, you drop a playlist for this for a yacht rock summer that we just talked about, and you're sending this to the hundred people that actually care about a Joe Bunn thing because you just crushed their wedding three weeks ago. You don't think they're gonna share that with their friends? Yeah. And so I just think it's a something that's not talked about a lot in the DJ community. I know it's kind of a sidebar conversation as far as this is streaming and we're talking about leads, but I think the the point I was trying to make was about microcommunities being something that we should focus on as DJ company owners in the mobile space.

SPEAKER_00 20:04

Thoughts? I mean, but we've also talked about this on here before when when it when I've said something like, um, it's not about going viral. You know what I mean? It's about showing up, it's it's not about virality. I mean, yeah, for me, it's like, okay, a reel does 5,000, and I'm like, eh, that's not great. But then I go, well, you know, and you've been there before for multiple concerts. You look at Red Hat Amphitheater. That holds 5,000 people. Right. And if I'm sitting on the front row watching one of my favorite bands, and I turn around and look and I go, holy shit, man, there's a lot of people here. And you think about that, that number 5,000. 5,000 people just saw this reel. 5,000 people might have just, you know, learned something from me. 5,000 people might have gone, hey, I should keep this guy in mind when I want to book a wedding, you know, on TikTok or whatever. Yeah. Like it just sometimes we we you get so caught up in the in the metrics or thinking that viral has to be a million plays or a million, you know, views or whatever. It's just that's not true. Right. The people that care, you know, that are are the people that show up for you and who are gonna spend money, that's who you gotta be focused on. Right. And and Saquon was and I were talking about this the other day. He goes, I'm gonna put my record out on Bandcamp instead of Spotify next time. And I go, What? He's like, Yeah. And I'm like, why? And he's like, and I'll make it eight bucks. We even gonna make physical copies, the actual CDs of the record. I mean, talk a little bit about like kind of your you know, as an artist and a producer, it's exactly what you're just talking about in this article.

SPEAKER_03 21:33

Yeah, yeah, like I saw some of that Jimmy Ivine interview, yeah, and when he was like, Oh, it's streaming's dead, like yeah, because it was always made for the consumer, not the artist. So then it's like the artists, yeah, everybody gets to have their favorite song at hand whenever they want to, you know, pay seven dollars a month, but then the artist kind of loses their edge, they don't want to put music. Out because they're not getting paid for it. Right, right. So a lot of people are starting to go back to like physical copies, band camps blowing up again. Um, I mean, you said vinyl blew back up. It's more of like a outsold everything creating, and maybe you don't have a CD player, but it's like it's the novelty of it. And the support of the artist. I love this guy. Right. I like this guy, I love this guy. I might not even listen to the music, but I just want to support it because he's doing it the right way. And the money goes to him. And it goes to him, and you know it's going directly to him versus big company that don't even put the money back into the artist. Then you get a million shrimp and you get a check for$12 or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 22:39

So to circle this all back, you know, even Substack, like it's the writer owning their material, right? So, of course, and I read articles like this, I'm always like, well, you know, how does this apply to a DJ? And the three things I wrote down was like, what if DJs instead of were saying, hey, follow me on G IG, which is what 90% of us do? Sure. They were focused on an email list of the past clients. Yeah. Actually, really, you know, utilizing that to its fullest potential instead of just hey, an anniversary thing that they do after the event. Right. What if they had private playlists that they were giving out to those people? What if they had VIP, you know, guest communities where you know you had some planners that you've been wanting to work with? You know what I mean? Net nurturing that micro community is to me something that is just like undervalued and not something that people are really looking at. Um, because Spotify, you know, they they're essentially renting listeners, is what they're doing right now. Whereas like Substack, they own the readers. You know, it's a it's a major difference. Those people who are on that platform.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

There's a ton of value in those past clients, man. Even though they've already gotten married, like they're they're just they had uh, you know, they had 50 guests that are probably getting ready to get engaged at their wedding. Right. They work for a company and they are gonna have a holiday party or an award show or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

Like if you don't own your audience, is what I kept thinking about. It's like you don't really have a business, you have like it's like exposure. You have exposure. You know what exposure gets you? Not much, right? So, like to me, owning your audience is everything. And you, if you've been doing this for any little bit of time, you have the ability to do that. Yeah, right? Yeah. I don't know. Just something to think about. Yeah, I agree. What do we got? Anything else? Oh, question of the day? One more? All right, let's do it. Question of the day. DJ munition. I'll read it. You know this dude?

SPEAKER_00 24:35

I do not know him. Yeah, you know, this is the dude that does the Swemo stuff, the Taylor Swift songs with the emotion.

SPEAKER_01 24:42

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I recently added a DJ to my training pipeline, and he recently shared that he will not DJ any wedding other than between a man and a woman due to religious beliefs. Beyond this limiting the amount of events I can assign him, morally this doesn't align with my core values and service to others and love. How do you guys handle a situation like this? Do I allow it and not send him on these types of weddings or nip it in the bud and force my energy on other DJs from DJ Munition through Instagram? You run into this? Oh no, not yet. I mean if you did, how would you uh assess it? Man, this is a cuff. Well, I it sounds like if he's like emailing you or Instagramming or whatever they count, uh this is somebody who's important to him. Because I would think you would write somebody off if he was a brand new guy, kind of wasn't that great, but it sounds like this is somebody that's worked with him for a while. Well, I don't know. Go back to the top sentence.

Hiring Values And LGBTQ Weddings

SPEAKER_00 25:42

I recently added a DJ to my training pipeline. So it doesn't sound like he has a lot of time and a lot of history or money invested in him. Right, right. I don't I mean, I I mean uh the the wedding before the last one was gay wedding. I don't I don't I don't discriminate like that. I play for whoever wants to get don't care, don't care the uh ethnicity, culture, race, sexual preference, don't care. Right. I play for whoever wants to have a good time.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

Do you ever have that conversation in your trainings with people? Like, hey, we're gonna put you on, like, and I'm not even let's not make it about cultural or whatever or sexual uh you know orientation or whatever. But like let's just say it was somebody who said, like, uh, I'm really my forte is hip-hop. Like, if I'm put on a rock show, I'm not gonna do well because that's just not something I know very well. Like, do you ever get that granular with it? Or have you had a DJ reach out and be like, yo, this playlist is not my cup of tea?

SPEAKER_00 26:42

Um, early on, I did. Some of those early guys, you know, like some of the especially some of those southern, you know, literally like redneck type dudes I had. I mean, there, you know, I had a one guy who was like a bass player in a country band. He didn't know, he didn't know 50 Cent or whatever was hot back then. He was just like, it's not what I do. And I'm like, man, and he lasted a long time. I was like, you're gonna need to learn.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:05

Like you're gonna need to dive into every type of music.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:09

And I I kind of needed him.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

So is that part of your vetting now? Like what kind of music are you listening to? Like, do you feel like you have got good depth?

SPEAKER_00 27:16

It's definitely more part of the interview process now. Um, what do you what do you like? What do you what are you comfortable with? Yeah. Can you play everything? It's definitely more part of the training process or the interview process before I even get to this training phase. Uh but to go back to his question, because I don't want to get off this. I mean, even though it's an uncomfortable kind of conversation, I I I don't know when you would even bring this up. You know what I mean? But it is a good thing before you get too deep into it, because if it is going against your core values and what you believe in and what your company stands for, right, especially at this point in the the process, I would probably just cut the guy loose. Be like, hey man, you know, nothing for nothing, but my brand d does everything, you know. Like we we play for everybody, and I just I'm I'm I get what you believe in, but this is what I believe in, and this is my company. I I think if that came out. Um But again, is it is it right to ask people that right off the off the rip? Yeah, I don't know. It's a tough question to to ask right out of the gate or during an interview.

SPEAKER_03 28:28

I mean, but I but I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 28:32

That's are you comfortable with we play for all types of events. Are you comfortable with that? I don't think that's a good thing. That's all you gotta say. Yeah, I don't think that's an HR violation if I had an HR department. Is it?

SPEAKER_01 28:44

I mean I don't know. I would definitely I mean that's why we have a we have a legal uh guy that I wouldn't say he's on retainer or anything like that, but I would ask him, because he's got people who deal with in his practice that he knows the stuff, and I would be like, hey, here's the concern. I want to bring it up. I obviously don't want anything I would ever get sued over. Yeah, you know, whoever's wording being wording being. What's the best way to do this that covers me? Semantics, yes. But I'm very similar to you. I I to me, like that's just more of a headache trying to put people in boxes of like, oh, I gotta like worry about that. Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

And listen, man, what if you miss it?

SPEAKER_01 29:20

I was just gonna say that. I sometimes the names you'd have no idea. I I I don't even think of it that way.

SPEAKER_00 29:25

Like, I don't even like I didn't either. The the the the um the the same set sweating I did two weeks ago, um, maybe I I kind of put two and two together about two weeks before. I just thought that the guy had booked it. Yeah. Something, right? And then as we get, you know, I start get get the planner from the wedding planner and and and prepping for the final call. I looked, I was like, oh, Jake and John. Those are definitely guys' names. Like, okay, cool, whatever. Yeah. But what if what if I just you had missed it? You've already got this guy assigned to it. He's been on there for a year. Yeah, they had the platform. I bet I've been on there for a year. Yeah. But I don't really start to look at these things into a couple weeks now because I don't like to get them mixed up. Oh, I get it. Yeah. So I was like, oh, yeah, okay. And then I kind of put to and do the oh, these are friends of friends of mine. Like these guys were at a wedding, that wedding I did in Costa Rica. Yeah. Okay, they were guests there. Oh, yeah, these guys, you know what I mean? But like I didn't put that together until much later. Yeah. Now you've assigned somebody that doesn't believe in it or doesn't want to do it. Right. Come on, man. That's that's crazy work. I just if you can nip it in the butt early, especially if you didn't have a lot invested in them, I would do that.

SPEAKER_01 30:27

Totally. And another way I would frame it is like, hey, I think you're gonna be more comfortable. You know, I think I won't put you in a place where you can thrive, you know, things like that where you're like trying to like, I don't want to say sugarcoat it, but like, and I'm being I'd be genuine with them. Like, right. The last thing I'm gonna do is have you on a sign, I didn't do it on purpose, but whatever happened, and we missed it. Right. And now I gotta go to this client and tell them, hey, I gotta switch your DJ because this guy, yeah, it's gonna be a conversation that I don't want to have. I don't want to have that conversation. You talk about uncomfortable with not worth putting us all into that weird position.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

That's gonna blow back on your brand. They're gonna spread the word that you know you you're you're homophobic or whatever. I mean, maybe not you, but like the the man, this is what they did two weeks before my totally. Uh he's gotta go now, man. If that if that's genuinely bad juju. Yeah, bad juju, bad karma. Good luck with it. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

Let us know what happens there.

SPEAKER_00 31:21

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