Handling Bad Song Lists From Couples

Season 8 Kickoff And Shout Outs

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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of actually, is this the first episode of season eight? Eight. That's pretty cool. I'm Brian B. Roll and I'm Joe Bunn. Welcome to our podcast, which is the premium podcast for private event DJs. You called it the podcast podcast de jour at one point. Oh, yeah. Remember that? Podcast of the day. That didn't even make sense, I don't think. Uh well, we have a Patreon if you're not familiar with this podcast where we give you all the good stuff. And that you need to check it out. It's great conversations. You can move up the queue if you've got a question pressing that you want us to cover. You want to hit some of our uh members here?

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Yeah, a couple of back room member shout outs. Our guy, Mike Watson in Richmond, Texas. And my boy Kirk Duncombe from Remember last time we saw him?

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Yeah, Nassau Bahamas. We were in the Bahamas. Yes, we were. Are you doing that? He is my guy. Like, if you ever need gear in the Bahamas, that's your boy. He hooked me up, came, set it up for us to do a little house party. Yeah, we did. We rocked that shit in that uh presidential suite. Yeah. I crashed engaged. Yeah. Everybody's like, where's your badge? I was like, nah, I'm like, this party ain't gonna be all that. It fell off. It was it. It was the night before. That was the move. It was fun. That was a fun move. That was a lot of fun, dude. It was a lot of fun. And I crashed engage. That's so cool. Well, as we've been doing on the last couple episodes, we've been doing a DJ Collective announcement drop. Yep. So if you're not familiar with the DJ Collective, once again, it is the conference that myself, Joe Bun, and Jason Janai put on here in Raleigh, North Carolina. It's going to be this November 16th through the 18th. And today, we're giving our keynote, uh, one of our keynotes. Maybe I don't know if we're gonna have multiples, but right now, this is one of our keynote speakers. You wanna do the honors?

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So, Jess Ekstrom, I just Google it. I mean, like that this is the I don't even know.

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We're lucky to have somebody of that caliber in this market, right? That doesn't happen very often.

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Not only is she in this market, literally, if we walk out that door right there and we walk out that side door of the building, she lives right there. Like she is a friend of mine. We've been friends for probably a decade now. Author, author, uh, been on the Today show multiple times, Good Morning America multiple times, started a charity called Headbands of Hope, where uh for every headband that somebody bought, they gave one to a child with cancer, which makes them feel very empowered and better because they usually are losing their hair going through treatment. Um and now uh teaches other women how to speak at conferences and how to get paid big bucks at conferences.

DJ Collective Keynote With Jess Ekstrom

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And she herself, I mean, you name it, Nike, Under Armour, Ford, whatever she goes and speaks for these groups. I can't even imagine the amount of money she charges and did not do that at all to us. She is she is doing us a huge, huge favor by being there. I promise you, this is going to be well worth the ticket cost. I I would probably pay just to see her speak. I'm going that far. And and uh I don't even think it's out yet. Maybe when this comes out, it'll just be coming out. Everybody that comes to the GJ collection. It's up to you. They're at my house. Is going to get her brand new book. So everybody that comes is going to get her brand new book on the day that she's being. Value add, right there. Value add. Value add. So anyway, I'm super stoked about it. November 16th through 18th. Raleigh, the DJ CollectiveOfficial.com. Let's go. Let's jump into some music, some crate finds. And the clip.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

So as we were talking through stuff, we find that I don't allow her.

SPEAKER_04 4:24

Go ahead. I just realized something. Me and you get an argument once a week about AI music. And every clip on the show is made with AI. Not all of 'em.

SPEAKER_02 4:38

Not all of them. There's some I paid a premium for before it became something that I could get for free.

SPEAKER_04 4:43

You hired like a musician on the higher.

SPEAKER_02 4:45

Yeah. Two of our two of them. Um the off the record and the Annie's playlist were real people. Not this Crape Vines one we just played. So no. Are you the one that sent me sugar one down the other day?

SPEAKER_04 4:58

Oh no, I did, I did, yeah. Holy and I almost I was right on the verge of getting chills, and then I went to the comments and it was fake. Yeah, it was fake. Yeah, I thought I thought I told you that. I don't I didn't if you I thought you just sent it like maybe I did.

SPEAKER_02 5:14

But I did tell you, I sent you another thing that said that did you see the what Spotify did? They basically are now uh they came up with a licensing agreement with Universal so far. They're the only label that is allowing them to a special license to be able to put out anything in their catalog of Universal that is and and and that they're the first of all the shoes to drop. That's how this these are. What to allow what AI songs from their catalog

AI Music Clips And Spotify Licensing

SPEAKER_02 5:40

of artists. There's no you don't have to um it's not illegal essentially. So I can type in maybe like song.

SPEAKER_06 5:48

That's probably why he's trying to get out of his contract. There's a lot of things we moved around in the music industry that we don't know anywhere happens.

SPEAKER_02 5:54

If you are on the universal label, okay, let's just say Drake. Okay, if he's on that label, you can utilize his songs and make an AI version and it can go up on Spotify. And he doesn't get royalties. I don't know what the licensing agreement says necessarily, but that's they've allowed that. Oh, dude. I told you it was gonna it was only gonna be about our time. There's the Pandora's box has been opened. This is going this is no one stopping it. So it'll be a minute before all these other ones, these other shoes drop with these other labels, but right now, anybody in the universal universe, you can utilize their stuff and put on the AI version.

SPEAKER_07 6:31

I don't know. I still don't know if it's gonna like. I just don't even see the point. Like, why would you want to put out AI music?

SPEAKER_04 6:40

Well, it depends on if you can get paid on it. I mean you as in, you know, I'm a remixer and I can go, hey, yeah, make me a Drake vocal and I've got this whatever Afro B. I don't know, dude. I I mean, I told you, like, yeah, a f one person removed from me is locked up currently for fake artists streaming. Now it's but he botted it. I mean, it was fake songs, fake artists, and then he just ran up the streams and then was taking the royalties. I don't know all of the legalities. You know somebody that was doing that? Bro, I was one phone call away from being indicted in it. Yeah. What? Yeah, Google Mike Smith in Charlotte, North Carolina. I was on the phone with the dude the week before he got stormtroopered. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 7:31

So he got he was making fake songs.

SPEAKER_04 7:34

He was making money off of fake artists, putting them on Spotify, then using bots to run up the streams. That's more the reason. And my man got 10 milli. Locked up. Mike Smith, look it up. That's crazy. He, I'm not gonna say who he's friends with, but one of my friends that we went to college with, and I somehow almost get caught up in these.

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I did not know that he was gonna have to report this.

SPEAKER_04 7:56

I'm just telling you, I almost got caught up.

unknown 7:58

Okay.

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Your boy was almost locked up with these with these people. Let's hit some music.

SPEAKER_02 8:03

Okay. So as we were talking about music, we were saying that cocktail hour dinner dancing are kind of the ones that we are currently in the mode of with weddings. So we're just gonna focus on cocktail hour tracks. If you are part of the Patreon, you'll get our best edits of these specific songs. So um I think I started with all of yours first. So the first track here is the song called Our Day Will Come. Amy Winehouse came out in 2011. Why'd you pick this one? Is it one you're playing regularly? Yeah. I love Amy. Where did this? I don't I'm not familiar with it. I wasn't familiar with it. Don't know. Don't know.

SPEAKER_04 8:37

I did not put on it. Must have been on that debut record, uh, the one that Mark Ronson did. I love it because it sounds old, but it also sounds kind of reggae-ish. And I love her voice, and I just kind of miss her and feel like she had a lot more potential before she kind of drank herself to death.

SPEAKER_09 8:59

Our day will come. And do you have it?

SPEAKER_04 9:06

Summary. Yeah. As we're getting into the a light breeze is blowing out of the southwest. You give your first drink, you know. I think I just love an old song. Oh, yeah.

Cocktail Hour Crate Finds That Work

SPEAKER_02 9:26

I guess the title Our Day Will Come. Yeah. If it's a wedding day.

SPEAKER_04 9:36

If I had to guess, yeah. Saquon could probably look it up. I bet I don't know that that is her song. I bet it is.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

A cover, right? Okay. Anyway. Your second song here came from the same year. 2011. The song is Faster, Matt Nathanson. You know this guy? I know Matt Nathanson. I love Matt Nathanson. What's his big track? Um Come on Gain. Yeah, that's my favorite one. I wasn't familiar with this one either. Okay. Are you listening to this guy on the regular?

SPEAKER_04 10:05

I've seen him a couple times.

SPEAKER_02 10:06

Uh is this like his second biggest hit? I'm not familiar with it.

SPEAKER_04 10:09

Yeah, I would say so.

SPEAKER_02 10:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 10:11

It's old, right? What'd you say?

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2011?

SPEAKER_04 10:13

Yeah. I I like old shit.

SPEAKER_06 10:14

Our dare you will come. It's by the romantics. Oh wow. Yeah, yeah. So it is an old song.

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There we go.

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Second song.

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He's so delicious. So so little George Michael kind of vibe.

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Sweet.

SPEAKER_09 10:31

Kind of have faith, faith, faith. You can mix those two in. Sunlight.

SPEAKER_02 10:35

Then you rip him.

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Maybe.

SPEAKER_02 10:38

I never noticed that too. Now you ruin it. It's a little more upbeat for him compared to that other song. Come on, get higher.

SPEAKER_09 10:50

It is. Oh, you owe me unravel my phone. Did you put out any new music?

SPEAKER_04 11:01

Kind of like I think he's good for a record every three or four years. It just doesn't never really trend. I mean, he's older now. Yeah, yeah. He's older than he's probably my age. Okay. But he he opened for Matchbox 20 like two years ago and slayed. He was great. Like he's a real funny. Like by himself, or did he have a band? No, he had a band. Okay. He had a band. Interesting.

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Still got good hair, too. Third track. We're moving up 10 years to 2021. Okay. Bruno Mars Skate. Love. Love.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:31

It is a throwback kind of yesterday. Oh love that sound. Yeah, it still works.

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Still works.

SPEAKER_04 11:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:39

I play it doors open. Doors open. Cocktails. Any of that. I'm getting so many request lists that say no, Bruno.

SPEAKER_04 11:47

Still, I did last year. Not so much this year. Okay. That's good. I think he redeemed himself.

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I'm trying to ride.

SPEAKER_02 11:56

Anyway. And then your last one is a throwback for sure. Otis Redding. Yeah. Stand by me 1960 version. So not the Benny King version. Right.

SPEAKER_04 12:05

I feel like does that feel bastardized? It would if it wasn't from the same era and same type of singer.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Because they kind of changed the melody line.

SPEAKER_04 12:14

They change the tempo and everything is different. If it wasn't him, I wouldn't allow it.

unknown 12:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 12:20

Like if it was some fuck face from today's era, like Usher. Weezer. Nah. Weezer, I'd kick them right in the face. Absolutely not. Even an RB singer from today's era. Yeah.

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Nah.

SPEAKER_04 12:36

Shag song.

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When the night.

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Oh. Yeah.

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Has come.

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Like the horns. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:49

It's one of my favorite songs, period. The original. So you know I wouldn't let somebody bastardize it unless they did that.

SPEAKER_09 12:58

No, no, no, no, no, no, I won't.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

You know, for some of my um older crowds. Yes, it's wrong. Like if I can see it's a lot of gray hairs, I'll play Stand By Me in the first dance set. Oh, yeah? It's like I could see that. Or my girl.

unknown 13:14

Whenever we're on a trip.

SPEAKER_02 13:15

Yeah. Oh yeah, I'll rock that one. Okay. So uh here's some of my stuff. Yeah, this is Jerry Rafferty, 1978. Wow. You're not playing this one. Right down the line. I'm kind of in that mood of yesteryear as well. Okay.

SPEAKER_09 13:31

You know I need y'all.

SPEAKER_02 13:32

Oh, yeah, I love this song.

unknown 13:33

You gotta hold over me.

SPEAKER_02 13:35

It goes over well. It kind of has a little bit of that classic, right? Classic rock vibe.

SPEAKER_03 13:41

You know that I'm yachtrockish.

SPEAKER_09 13:44

Yeah. When I wanted you to share my life, I had no doubt in my mind.

SPEAKER_04 13:58

Yeah, it's a great track. I fuck with this. Yeah. Um, I'd be in the back of my mom's like Buick. She had this brown Buick and just riding out and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

Oh yeah. Great track.

SPEAKER_04 14:08

On the radio. So now these are some newer tracks that sound old. So I saw my babysitter at the beach this weekend from when I was, you know. A babysitter. Yeah, when I was a little kid. I had a babysitter. What's she 80? Uh she was she's in her 60s, yeah. Now? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:24

Wait, she was 10 years older than you?

SPEAKER_05 14:26

Yeah, that would be a great question. Yeah, because if she was 17 and then you were six, it'd be like 10 years older.

SPEAKER_04 14:33

Um Right? Yeah, she would have been 16. Yeah, 10 years older than that. Changing your diapy?

SPEAKER_05 14:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:39

My mom and dad would leave us, bro, and she was still powder. And and she raised us, man. Like I still talk to her all the time. She's related to a member of my family. So let me preface it by saying that. But I just saw her at the beach and I and then we were talking, and she was at a restaurant, and we just started talking, and I was like, didn't you take me to see Casey and the Sunshine Band when I was a little kid? I have a it's a foggy memory, but before Casey was uh super huge, he came to Wilson and played at uh The Wreck or something like that. And she was like, Yeah, 1978. You were seven, and we were in there just rocking out, get down tonight.

SPEAKER_02 15:17

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_04 15:18

I was seven years old, yeah. And I was like, I had this vague memory of it. And then, you know, they blew up or whatever. Yeah. But it was like right around the start of disco. I love that. Yeah. Classic.

SPEAKER_06 15:29

Was there like a was that like Wilson part of the Chitlin Circuit or something?

SPEAKER_04 15:32

I mean, yeah, because my mom has a story of being a little girl in Fleming Stadium, the old baseball stadium in Wilson was right by my grandma's house, and mom snuck out and went and saw Elvis when he was like on those, you know, like those bus tours. Yeah, Chitl's. Yeah, yeah. Not on, not on, you know, Ed Sullivan, like before all that. And she was like, he broke every string off his guitar, like we snuck out, saw Elvis, like crazy shit.

SPEAKER_02 15:59

Anyway, so this is Chitless. I'm going back to songs that sound like yesterday. I'm on this kick right now. Okay. These are newer songs. Okay. Have you heard the artist Jungle? No, but you know what?

SPEAKER_04 16:10

Dom just posted a song.

SPEAKER_02 16:11

Back on 74 is their main hit. Okay. The which uh I don't know when that came out, actually. But this one is uh actually that came out in actually I don't know when that came out. Um but the song I'm gonna play for you is a song called Let's Go Back. Okay. 2024, this song came out. You wouldn't know it if you heard it, I don't think. I don't know if it's the reverb, the tone of a voice. Like 74 beats per minute, you know, whatever. Like great dramatic light. Yeah, there we go. It's got summer to me with kind of feeling.

SPEAKER_04 17:05

Okay. It's kind of like that fits in the tangrium. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

Okay. I like it. So my next one here entry is an artist named Don West. You familiar with Don? I don't know, Don. 2024 came out. Song's called Small Change. Came out 2024. Horns.

SPEAKER_04 17:32

What a voice. I actually do know this. Somebody sent me this record. I think I did. Yeah, I think it was small page.

SPEAKER_03 17:42

Yeah. Yes. What a great record. So good. So white guy. I'm allowing it. Needed to be a black guy. It didn't feel right otherwise. I'm sorry. Alright, the next one here. Soul soul music, man. Like 2024 soul music is crazy. Crazy. You know?

SPEAKER_02 18:08

This song is by the Swayze. Familiar with the Swayze? Uh no. 2025? Did you ever live through the arrow and somebody be like, uh, Swayze?

SPEAKER_04 18:18

Like that was like Swayze, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:21

Remember that.

SPEAKER_04 18:22

But people like would like kind of exit the room. Instead of like peace out. Yeah. It meant multiple things. Because like, remember, because like it meant like maybe after he died, people would be using it as like peace out.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

Maybe. I don't know. Anyway. This song's called Someday We Will Dream About Today, which I like the title already about weddings. Okay. Here we go. Like that 1960s again, surf kind of music. But current. Who is this again? The Suave's.

SPEAKER_09 19:00

I can see a sway in dance.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

It's like that indie, but also, I don't know.

SPEAKER_09 19:08

Lost in San Francisco. Wonder should we let go of everything?

SPEAKER_02 19:13

Trying to get you on some new music. Just listen to it for the bow.

SPEAKER_04 19:17

I'd rather any of these little summer, little summer playlist.

SPEAKER_09 19:23

Look back, wonder how it slipped away.

SPEAKER_02 19:27

I'm so impressed with the production level on these newer artists are coming out. It's like awesome. You think it's real? Oh, that one I know is. Yeah, that's a real group.

SPEAKER_07 19:36

You can tell.

SPEAKER_02 19:37

You think it's real? Last entry. Uh, this is Sam Fender with Olivia Dean. You know, Randy went to Ireland to see Sam Fender with the killers, and he didn't show up. No. Swear to God. This came out last year. I mean, Olivia Dean's been blown up, obviously, but this is a song called Rain Again.

SPEAKER_04 19:55

I've heard this one.

SPEAKER_02 19:56

Great track.

SPEAKER_04 19:57

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 20:07

Uh he sounds like Tony Bear. A little bit. Got that kind of sound to his vocal, like not a great singer, but it works because he's got so much. I let him ride a little bit of a little bit of a little bit. She's so good. She's so good.

SPEAKER_09 20:39

Love and exercise.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

So hopefully we're introducing people to some new cocktail tracks. I got some from you. I'm not, I'm not playing any of those.

SPEAKER_04 20:45

So dude, I was telling um Saquon last weekend we were doing this wedding. Like, my go-to, I'm sure I've mentioned on here before, used to be these pottery barn CDs. Do you remember these? I don't know. They were they were these pottery bars. Instrumental? No, no, they weren't instrumental, but it was more like um, you know, Sinatra or Tony, kind of Dean Martin. Like, but they would have, and whenever a new one would come out, I'd be like, yes. I mean, I would just play the whole thing when I was playing CDs. I'd be like, dinner's here, pottery born CD number one.

SPEAKER_02 21:18

Brian B here. If you like the music I share on our podcast, just know I'm holding back a bit. The real stuff lives on my personal DJ Patreon. This is where I put all of my exclusive edits, my curated lists, the exact tracks I'm pulling from every pool, Patreon, fan camp, and private email lists that I subscribe to. I'm doing all the digging so that you don't have to. Just the stuff that makes people go, yo, this DJ is different. So if you're tired of playing the same old, same old, go to patreon.com/slash DJ BrianB official. And if you want a little more access, there's a VIP tier with coaching and some extra perks. That's patreon.com. Let's move into the pop culture minute. Brian B. Joe Bun.

SPEAKER_09 22:08

Dropping heat just for fun. Pop talk spinning like a wreck of spine. Pop culture clash where the stories collapse. Two DJs bringing the flavor world.

SPEAKER_02 22:26

Alright, dude. So I saw this clip on social. Uh-oh. This is one of those brides you don't probably want, but I'm just curious how you would navigate this if this was her telling you what she doesn't want on her do not playlist.

The Patreon Music Edge

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Okay, I'm kidding. In all seriousness, this is my DJ do not playlist. For all you brides wondering what to put in your DJ do not playlist, I made mine extremely thorough. Starting off, number one, no Taylor Swift. Sorry, Swifties. I don't like Taylor Swift. Number two, no Bruno Mars. Number three, no Lizzo. No Pharrell, no Katy Perry, no R. Kelly, no Megan the Stallion, no Cardi B. Sorry. Love her, but it's not the vibe for the wedding. No Megan Trainer. I don't need to elaborate. No corridos, which this is like painful, but they don't really like when you do that in Mexico for whatever reason. Weird. Um wobble. The cha cha slide. If I hear the cha cha slide, I am

The Extreme Do Not Play List

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leaving. I'm leaving and I'm dragging my fiance with me. Who let the dogs out? The Cupid Shuffle. Um, any line dancing songs or artists, the electric slide, YMCA, Sweet Care Line. Because that's just played everywhere. The Macarena. Cotton Eye Joe. Let's retire the song. Um Gangham Style. I like it by Bad Bunny and Cardi B. I'm like over that song. Beyond over it. Um, We Are Family. Celebration. Party rock anthem. Dynamite. This button. Okay. Dance. Dance the night away. Happy by Pharrell, which I know I put no Pharrell, but like, do not play because I'm happy. No. Shut up and dance. Do not play single ladies. Absolutely not. Don't stop believing. Hey ya is just as bad as if you were to play happy by Pharrell. Absolutely not. Blurred lines. Another Pharrell song. Just had to put it in there. Mambo number five. Call Me Maybe. Loki, love that song for a little Y2K moment, but not the vibe for this night. Wake me up before you go go. Livin' on a Prayer. I mean, it's a good song, but like it's just played everywhere. Every single party. Barbie Girl, I don't know. Wasn't taking risks, you know? And Shape of You by Ed Sharon, because like actually, I'm gonna put no Ed Sharon as well.

SPEAKER_02 25:21

I mean, I don't think anything is outliers there.

SPEAKER_04 25:24

No, I don't either. I I I mean, I thought you were gonna she was gonna start naming stuff that just was essential to my thing. I uh could you navigate that? Oh, I could I could navigate that all day. Uh there are one or two things I would I was I would have probably played. Right. I I usually play dynamite into that don't stop believing, even Steve Mick. Shout out to even Steve. Right. Um no, man. I I'm I'm okay with it, honestly. I I see where she's going. I just don't need it spelled out like that. I wouldn't have played that shit anyway. Right.

SPEAKER_02 25:55

I don't, I don't, you don't have to I don't know. It's the thing is, this is because I'm finding this is becoming more common. Like people are I look, she's reading some kind of list, clearly. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:06

No, she's made that on her computer and she's going to send it to the DJ. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. Listen, man, I'm okay with it. I'm not sitting there encouraging people to make that kind of list. Right. I don't really want that list. Man, speaking of, this was just this morning. And it has me a little bit concerned. I got the email last night and I said, you gotta clarify what you mean, my boy. He was like, hey, I got you booked to do my wedding next May. Next May? Already working on the playlist. May 2027. Yeah, which is red flag number one. Yeah. Red flag two. Um yeah, there's certain transitions I want to show you. And I go, what do you mean? Transitions. And I go, I'm betting that the clips you send me are friends of mine, but go ahead and send them and I'll see what you mean. So he sends a transition. I actually didn't know the kid. It was a word play. Oh. And I go, uh, it's called a I respond this morning, hey man, it's called a word play. You know, to be completely honest with you, most DJs are not doing that live. Like there are plenty that can, but it's usually a pre-recorded thing. Like some editor made it. I'm happy to play some of those. I've got some great ones.

SPEAKER_02 27:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:18

And I hadn't heard back, but I'm like, I don't, you're not gonna tell me how to transition songs. Like I go, I I go up, you know, I grew up playing in clubs. I play pretty quick, you know, mixing through songs and stuff. So that's what I thought he was asking.

SPEAKER_05 27:33

Like it's going down, like, and then and it's like you switch to like going down, down, like stuff like that. Wordplays. Okay, right, all right, okay.

SPEAKER_04 27:40

But again, most of those are pre-produced. Yeah, like not live. I know Brian does some lives. I mean, not many. Right.

SPEAKER_02 27:46

I don't I don't try I don't must. I'm like, uh happy to play them, but yeah, it's the fact that he's thinking about it this early. A year. Yeah, it's a little early, my boy. What you're talking about, but yeah. Yeah, that could be a red flag. It could be.

SPEAKER_04 28:02

Could be, or it could be a good sign.

SPEAKER_02 28:03

Like maybe I mean he's into the culture, yeah. And he's into music, which is nice. Right. I mean, those can be either way. Hey, real quick, Joe, should we explain the back room or just let people figure it out? I think we should explain. All right, it's our Patreon. We call it the back room, a community for you, our listeners, the booth heads. And if you're not in there, you are missing a ton of stuff. Things like bonus episodes, exclusively recorded monthly for backroom members.

SPEAKER_04 28:29

Plus the tracks that we pull that actually work for the events when we play them and when you play them. Early batched episodes, giveaways. Look, we have the good stuff there, not junk. We're not gonna email you some sticker.

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And it's $19.99 a month. For now.

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Yeah, for now. Go to patreon.com beyond the DJ Booth Podcast. Again, patreon.com slash beyond the DJ Booth Podcast.

SPEAKER_02 28:53

Join us and our booth head community in the back room. Let's hit the story time. Okay. So I recently did a K-pop wedding. This not the whole thing. It was heavy, heavy K-pop. 90%. That's what they wanted. Um, so the groom was Korean. Okay. I was gonna ask, was either person Korean? The ride was Chinese. Hey. Chinese, I love them. They're tough though. They are tough crowd, tough crowd. Don't

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like very proper. Very and not big dancers. Nah. Yeah. So he sends me the playlist. Okay. I thought this would be a fun little exercise. I have the playlist for you of songs that they're wanting and don't want. And then the actual like request list. Okay. So uh I'm just curious. In your flow, you get this playlist. This is the scenario. You get this playlist. I want to know kind of like where you're putting some of these songs, even if you don't know them, like what you would originally like. How would you put these into your folders? Like, meaning like you I didn't have half the stuff. No, quite honestly. I wouldn't either. But because this is dancing, I wanted to make sure that I had the actual physical copy, not like a streamed version that was downloaded on a locker. Speaking of. And how to navigate Serato has

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been bad lately. So the must plays, both uh K-pop demon golden and free, both on K-pop demon hunters. Okay, no problem. I can fit those in. Don't plays. Dancing Queen. Can't have Dancing Queen. Doesn't want Pink Pony Club. I asked him why. There wasn't really a real reason. They said they were just overplayed.

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Okay.

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So here we go with the playlist. I got three screens for you to see. I just thought we'd go through it. At first, when I was looking through this list, I'm like, okay, easy. We got Cascada. Well, Shake, Shut up and Dance, Tanza, Head and Heart. Okay, so some of these are good. Dynamite first BTS. Sure. Red Light. Okay track. I'd play it. Savage Love. I haven't heard that in a minute. That's the TikTok track with the Jason Gerulo one. Take me home, Cash Cash. I like these first ones. I took a pill. Get low, blinding lights.

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I got a problem with this list.

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I'm not so bad. Millionaire, not the bigger song of Nelly's. Okay track. Up. Now we start getting weird a little bit. Okay. Actually, not yet. Duck Duck Goose. Not familiar with it. No, I don't know. Stereo Love. Work from home. Good. Attention's fine. Heads will roll, I think it was what it was supposed to say. Pepis, what makes you beautiful? Okay. Scream, not bad. Get low. Temperature. Okay, all these are good. Wanna work with want me? Starship, super base, business without. I'm not playing Florida. Okay.

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Second half of the night.

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Okay. All these. Part one. Good. Go on. Part two. Uh-oh. Here we go. Uh-oh. Magic shop. Not familiar. Love Maze. Not familiar. In the end. Okay. I can see that in there every now and then. Roses, a TikTok track. Yeah, I like that one. Okay. I choose you. I'm not familiar with it. Roxanne, a TikTok track. Yeah, I remember. Wasted. Okay. Brain on me. Yeah. Early. Body language. Not familiar with it. But it was okay. Track. Let's go. Tiesto. A lot of TST. B-side Tiesto, though. Wow. Halfway. Set yourself free. I know Corella and TSO. I don't know that track. Now we get to back to the K-pop. Black Pink. B-Sides Marshmallow. Proud. Stars. Michere. Not familiar. Save me. Somewhere I belong. No. Lincoln Park? What? For dancing? Too much. Marshmallow. Nope. Don't know it. Aftershock. B-side. Nope. For the snake. I know that artist. Don't know that one. Berserk, not familiar with that record. Know that artist. Another B-side TS though. Another B-side TS though. Another B-side TS. Another B-side TS. Another. Nope. Permission to dance. No. BTS, don't know it. Distant memory rehab. Okay. And then part three. Run it. DJ Snack, not familiar. Butter, I know it. Not their best song. No. Won't let you go. Martin Garrick's. No. I don't know this black pink one. Psycho. No. Galantis. No. Bread Velvet. No. Flux Pavilion and Dylan Francis. I like both those artists. I don't know that song. My Shine, Childish Gambino, J. Cole, not that his best track. No. Until I collapse, they only have the uh explicit version. Not gonna play it probably. Wannabe. Uh, that's K-pop. Another uh K-pop, K-pop, K pop, K-pop, uh, weird EDM, marshmallow track. I don't know it. I need you, BTS, Guap, Big Sean, don't know that's the track. Jason Dorello, B-sides of both of these tracks. I actually did have six foot, seven foot, little Wayne. Not his greatest track. That's okay. When J-Rock, 21 Reasons, okay track, not a great one. Somewhere to run Corella, don't know it. No. Post Malone. These are the tracks in the dancing.

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How long was the dance set? Three hours? Eight till midnight. The dancing. How many people? Wait, what? Uh a hundred. How did it go? Not well. Not well. Uh oh. Go ahead.

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Are we out of batteries? No.

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We got it.

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Gets a double hit. Yeah. Um so there was, if you notice in this list, there's no retro hardly at all. None. Like I didn't see any really. Did you bring that up on the call? I did. Yeah. What about your parents? What about my grandparents? Let me back up. This guy, whose guy? Doesn't send me this list until five days prior. Okay. That's that's tight. Tight. For you, especially. So I text him. Hey boy. And say it like that. But got your list.

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Hey, well.

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Uh uh, I don't even know what I how I framed it, but I was something along the lines of like, I started started really well. You know, the first part's great. Yeah, no, it's great. But I go, this is all like to me. Did you make this graphic or was it typed out? No, I I just for the screen. Okay, okay. But I I said a lot of this I would play later in the night. This isn't even early stuff. I mean, most of it, blinding lights, yeah. I mean, I play all that a little bit later. I'm not kicking off with that, right? I mean, there's maybe blinding lights might be the only one out of this that I would play early. Everything else on this is like later in the evening, right? So I go, hey, do you want me to go heavy with the K pop early? Thinking that that's probably like that's gonna get most of your crowd. I'm like, I'm not as familiar with it. I mean, obviously, I know those artists. Any of these tracks, he's like, I'm gonna leave it to you. So then he writes back. So I start off with right out of the gate with butter. Uh let me back up. They were doing their first dance into uh, it was some like Korean song, into Teach Me How to Dougie. Okay. That was To open the dance. To open the dance for wedding party immediately out there. Everybody else sits. I'm like, not a whole lot of retro stuff. So I'm like, I'm gonna go into butter. I think it was like 90 some upbeats per minute. I'm like, if there's anybody in this K-pop world that's gonna come out to it, I would hope that would be the song that would get people out there for the time being. Crickets. Nobody coming out to the K-pop. Wait, wait, is the wedding party still out there though? Uh-ish, yeah. So I'm like, I got four hours to go. A long night. And um Do you ever verbally go? Sometimes like out loud, I'll go, uh-oh. Like Saquon, and Saquon does that, he just starts laughing. I was second guessing life choices at that point. I'm like, oh. So then I'm like, do I stick to this list? I guess was my you know, or do I go rogue and just know what I do what I can to get people I can get out there. I did have that conversation with them. You did? Yeah, that's always part of my combos. Like, listen. You've talked about that. Yeah, if I don't see it pop off, do I have your permission to go rogue? To deviate. So I went rogue, and that helped, but I went to like unwritten, you know, like some of the songs that I know are like, I'm not saying I play that next, I'm just saying like within the course of this. Sure. I didn't play a lot of like retro stuff, but I just looked at the crowd. I'm like, even if I play that, it doesn't seem like the majority of people who are out here dancing are of that age, number one. Number two, the people who are sitting, they're very uh proper and I don't see them coming out to anything.

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Yeah.

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So why are you trying to why would I try to force that to clear the floor with the you know 20, 30 people I have out here? Did you ever go to ballads? No, I never did because there wasn't really any on this list. Right, you know? So the for the first hour and a half, I'm playing anything as close to mainstream as I can. You know, the pit bull isn't on this list, but it's not on do-not play either. So I'm like, let me at least try to throw that in there. Did you have a do-not play? Yeah, the two that I showed you Dancing Queen and Pink Pony Club. That was it. That was it. Two songs, two songs. So I'm just curious, like, how would you navigate this list as a working exercise? I mean, I mean And are you downloading all these tracks that you don't have? Are you downloading everything? I mean, how many of these would you not have? Two-thirds. Right.

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Not have. Not have.

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Two-thirds. Are you having that conversation? Like, I'm not even wanting to download this stuff. Like, I was thinking through like, do I even need to have this? Because this is gonna literally go in the trash when I finish this gig, but now I've just bought it. Did you buy them? Yeah. You wouldn't have streamed them.

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Did you feel like you were at a country club where you could have streamed them?

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I could have. But I didn't know it. I didn't know what I was walking into. I needed to be as prepared as possible to mix in some of these.

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I mean, to be fair, I don't know that I've had a show in a long, long time where I've had that many songs that I didn't have. If I didn't, I think I would gamble on the stream. Unless it was like a tinted wedding at somebody's house. But if I'm in a country club, a hotel, even these barns, like they all have Wi-Fi. I the thing that has me flustered and probably had you flustered is you had too much time to cover with a substandard list and a third of the crowd being not engaged at all.

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Right. I probably would have I don't know.

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I I I probably would have pulled a ballad an hour at least. Yeah. But do you think a ballad would have even pulled that side out?

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I don't think so. Right. I mean, eventually the the groom was actually a dancer, like he actually like knew like uh teach me how to dougie. Yeah, like he knew when Get Low got on, he was out there, like he was the main guy.

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Yeah.

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But I think that the bride and groom and maybe a few of the bridesmaids were K-Popers. The rest of the crowd really wasn't. Like they didn't know these records. I'm like, if anyone's gonna know these records, it's gonna be this crowd. Like you're going that deep into it. Yeah. And I I mean, I always have the conversation, make sure to think of your crowd, like the people who are gonna be there. Like, don't go too rogue. Yeah, but because it came in so late, which is another problem, that I mean, that shouldn't happen. And it doesn't happen very often. It's rare, very rare for me. But the fact that so many of these came in so late, uh and even like the song, like, um, what is it? I took a pill in a biza, like that's a weird one to play for dancing in general. It's kind of like a groove record, and not really like that. Whereas like the get low of the Dylan Francis right below it, that is like heavy, like it's almost like trappy. Yeah. You're talking like it's just so all over the place. It's a hot mess, in my opinion.

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Page one is good to me. Like, I like page one. This this, you know, but this is only like an hour and a half.

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I know. I'm gonna burn so I I I played a little slower. I was like, I can't rip through this because I gotta save these songs. I did they make it to midnight? They did. God dang, bro.

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They did. That's brutal. I'm sorry. I don't know.

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I mean, I got tipped really well. Yeah, the groom was very happy, yeah. But I'm like, this did not pop off like I was hoping it would have. Um, he's like, I had so many people say it was great. I'm just like, they haven't been to many weddings. I didn't say, but like even these hip hop records, like they're not like they're not normal. No. And a lot of them were explicit, so because they don't have like a radio edit. Now I know there's software now that kind of helps you, you know. Did you roll with it? I played like two of them. Like I didn't stick to this list very much with like with the cursing. I mean, I didn't play those records just because I was like, right, yeah, they're not it's not gonna work with this crowd, regardless. You know, yeah. I will say, in the end, crushed with the groomsman. Right. Um, I didn't play somewhere I belong. It's a trash record in general. I mean, not for dancing. No, it's a throwaway. I mean, yeah. So I was just curious uh how you would have rolled it. And like, and all these songs, I'm like, I'm putting them in my archive because I'm not ever gonna play. I don't want them cluttering my my you know library. These are so bad, bro. You don't need them. So bad. Anyways, uh, I just wanted to throw this out there because this literally just happened.

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in the middle of my head. I'm gonna go over there and turn the table over and take all your hotels and throw them out the window. I mean, I was I was I went over to him, I go, we got a problem. He's like, I go, go back at the back right of the room and look at that table. Wow. I think it ended up being more props, like it must have been something that was props, and I think it was it was a lot of kids there.

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Oh, that's right. So I think you know, the problem I hate a kid. But it was a good idea. Yeah. Take the kids away from the danger.

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Right. Well, they don't know how to play Monopoly, bro. They're not building Monopoly. Maybe I'm making it real.

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But it was like it was like Connect 4. Okay, well, that's a little bit better.

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Sitting there playing a whole hour of Monopoly. An hour? That's like barely getting started.

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Start at the reception.

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Uh but if I got a lot of those kind of red. I I saw one today. It came in today through um Wedding Wire the Knot. And it was like something, something, something. And I just kept happening to catch one sentence. I always get those and I forward them to Randy. It said something like, My fiance and I are not big dancers. I'm literally sitting at Randy, I said, Not it. That's all I wrote. And he knows exactly what I mean. Yeah. There's a couple of venues that they come in, you know, and I'll forward them to Randy and go, not it. Yeah. Like in other words, try and book this, but I ain't playing it.

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Have you had any this year that haven't been fits? That you're like, maybe I missed it.

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No.

SPEAKER_02 45:50

So they've all been pretty. So you've gotten better and better at all.

SPEAKER_04 45:52

We've had a couple small ones, but I mean, but yeah.

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Yeah.

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No. I I I I know what he's talking about, but it I think the problem was smallness. The room was small, the crowd was small. Like I I would rather do 150 people plus. Okay. But I I don't know, man. I I I guess Donnie just just still try and do a consult, still try and ask your questions and then weed it out from there.

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Yeah. I think a lot of this is experience more than it is um a formula. Yeah. And you know, I I keep a little running list of things I don't like to do. Sure. And I have it on a post-it. And I'm not saying I ask every time those questions, but like, you know, is the bar outside? Are you planning on how important am I in a corner? Yeah. How important is music and entertainment to your overall day? Like, because we're doing with destination. So sometimes it's a location. Yeah. Um, I definitely, one of the biggest things for me is I I walk them through like my creative process of what we do. And if I can see blank stares or boredom, yeah, then I know they're not the fit for me. Yeah. And I I think the challenge a lot of times is like you're worried about are you gonna get another inquiry to fill the date? And I think that's just uh I've gotten over that. Yeah, me too. I've used to care. Yeah. And now I don't because I always get another one to replace it, usually. Yeah, or it's the perfect break that I need.

SPEAKER_04 47:18

I was about to say, or God forbid, take the weekend off and go to the beach with me and and your wife and your daughter, like we're doing in uh two weeks or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 47:26

Um but it's always nice to have in your contract the ability to terminate.

SPEAKER_04 47:30

You're right.

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So we talked about that on a bonus episode. If you're not in the back room, I think he might be in the back room. Okay, he might be. Actually, I think he is. Yeah. Check out that episode. But um, yeah, that can help you get out of it if you see it midway through and you're like, this is not worth it. Because every I was telling somebody the other day, every gig is you're putting risk out there. Not for that gig, but for future gigs. Sure. Right? So if he does, if you're doing with like uh, let's say uh somebody of high net worth, they're not giving you anything, and you walk in blind to this event and you know it wasn't the right fit, you've just screwed yourself for any referrals that would have ever come from that from all the people that were there. You have the money to afford you potentially.

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Yeah.

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Because you did an event that you probably shouldn't have taken.

SPEAKER_08 48:12

Yep.

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So I'd rather that word not get out. And some of it, they don't even know that it's not your fault. Maybe they didn't get you the songs till five days beforehand. You know what I mean? It could be a lot of stuff. So uh you gotta make a list of the things that you don't like to do or red flags to be aware of and just keep that nearby and and try to help. All your potential clients are at these weddings. Right.

SPEAKER_04 48:32

They're at these weddings. Let's close it out. So thank you guys for listening to Beyond the DJ Booth. We want to thank our sponsor, DJ Event Planner. If you're looking for a CRM to help you track your leads and keep up with your inquiries and trickle out emails to your clients, this is the move, DJEventplanner.com. Thanks, guys. See ya.

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Bye.